Muslims Attack and Burn 3 Churches in Malaysia



Church damaged in midnight fire
Posted by: allanlcw
I wonder what this group of youth are actually thinking when they did that. I'm not sure whether their actions are influence by any groups and I surely hope that none of this will ever happen again. We have this happening in our neighboring country and I never thought one day I will actually read this in our paper. I feel disappointed, disgusted by their action.

I assume this connects to the current situation where some groups prohibit the use of the word "Allah". I hope the police will do whatever it takes to find the culprits and put them behind bars, perhaps ISA should be put into good use right now. This could be the start of something really bad if it's not handle promptly.

The church suffers 90% damaged as I have heard.

RE:Officials: Church set on fire in Malaysia (AP)
Yahoo! News - Made Popular: 10 hours ago AP - Unidentified attackers set fire to a church in Malaysia early Friday amid a growing conflict in the country over the use of the word "Allah" by non-Muslims, officials said.

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3 Churches attacked in Malaysia

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia – Assailants attacked three Malaysian churches with firebombs Friday, extensively damaging one amid a growing conflict over the use of the word "Allah" by non-Muslims, officials said.

The attacks sharply escalated tensions in the Muslim-majority country ahead of planned protests by Muslims later Friday against a Kuala Lumpur High Court verdict which struck down a 3-year-old ban on non-Muslims using "Allah" in their literature.

"I condemn these actions because they will destroy our country's harmony," Prime Minister Najib Razak told reporters. "The government will take whatever steps it can to prevent such acts."

Najib said he has told the national police chief to step up security at churches and other places of worship.

The Dec. 31 court decision incensed many Muslims, who see it as a threat to their religion. Hateful comments and threats against Christians have been posted widely on the Internet, but this is the first time the controversy has turned destructive.

The ruling was on a petition by Malaysia's Roman Catholic Church, whose main publication, the Herald, uses the word Allah in its Malay-language edition.

The first-floor office in the three-story Metro Tabernacle Church was destroyed in a blaze a little after midnight, said Kevin Ang, a spokesman for the Protestant church. The worship areas on the upper two floors were undamaged and there were no injuries.

Kuala Lumpur police Chief Mohamad Sabtu Osman told The Associated Press that a witness saw four people on two motorcycles breaking the glass front of the church and throwing an incendiary object inside before fleeing.

He said police found a wrench, an empty gasoline can and two scorched motorcycle helmets at the scene. The church occupies a corner plot in a row of shops in Desa Melawati, a suburb of Kuala Lumpur.

"We are still investigating," he said. He also urged Muslims not to participate in the planned protests.

Separately, Molotov cocktails were thrown into the compounds of two other churches before dawn, causing minor damage in one and none in the other, church officials said.

The Rev. Lawrence Andrew, the editor of the Herald, said many churches have employed extra security guards. "Most churches are taking precautions. They are aware it may just blow up," he said.

The government has appealed the court verdict and the High Court has suspended its decision's implementation until the appeal is heard.

Muslims argue that "Allah" is exclusive to Islam, and its use by Christians would confuse Muslims and tempt them to convert to Christianity.

About 60 percent of Malaysia's 28 million people are Malay Muslims, while the rest are ethnic Chinese, Indians and indigenous tribes. The minorities follow Christianity, Hinduism and other religions.

The Malay-speaking indigenous tribespeople, living in remote states of Sabah and Sarawak, are the main readers of the Herald's Malay-language edition. Catholic officials say "Allah" is the only word they know for God.

Many Muslims in Malaysia have refused to accept the argument that "Allah" is an Arabic word that predates Islam, and that it is used by Christians in countries such as Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Indonesia regularly in their worship.

The backlash against the court verdict has reinforced complaints by minorities that they face institutional discrimination by the government.

On Thursday, the Malaysian judiciary's Web site was hacked and defaced with an apparent threat to Christians, The Star newspaper reported. The site, however, appeared to be normal on Friday.

The Star said the hacker, using the alias "Brainwash," defaced the site with a banner saying: "Mess with the best, die like the rest" and "Allah only restricted to Muslim only."

Burning of churches and the police stood by and watch


From: "mat tompel"
Subject: Burning of churches and the police stood by and watch

The PM needs to get the police to answer why they just stood by and watch.
Will they also stand by and watch others burn the mosques? I am sure the
police know who the culprits were who burn those churches. Have any arrest
been made?

Do we need the Chritians to call for the Crusaders to come forth to defend
the churches? Do we need a war between
Christians and Muslims to start from Malaysia?

Najib you have to show your hand firmly. The country cannot afford this game
to be played. No one is going to win.

The fight over God's name ungodly

From: bear

Subject: Re: The fight over God's name ungodly

On Jan 6, 12:42 pm, Tanki <5191...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Posted by: drchris
> God is God whatever name we call Him.

> If one truely beleives in God then he/she should stop this fight to
> own the name to call Him.Allah,Tuhan or Lord does it matter to Him
> whom we consider Almighty and all merciful?

> God is God whatever name we call Him.

> Let's put this issue to rest and continue to do what God really wants
> to - spread His love and goodwill to ALL regardless of race or creed.

> If we do the right thing God will always be on our side regardless
> what we call Him.

It just prove that these people who fight over them are not true
followers.

BORNEO: Part of Malaysia or colonised by Malaya?

From: Tanki <5191...@gmail.com>
Subject: BORNEO: Part of Malaysia, or colonised by Malaya?

Posted by: Xan9
One of the most recent news, the Bakun Dam Project:

http://www.atimes.com/reports/BJ28Ai01.html
http://www.greenleft.org.au/1997/262/17696
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/16/news/16iht-asiaen.ttt.html
http://www.bt.com.bn/en/science-technology/2009/12/28/bakun-dam-proje...

The project was forced through to meet the demands for electricity in
Kuala Lumpur. S&S have enough electricity without needing the Bakun
Dam. Now, it's splashed across The Star that S'wak is to receive
320mil for this. For all that is destroyed, ancestral land, burial
sites, and all that is sacred to the people who own the land and
depend on it, not to mention the ecology, 320mil is sh*t. And who,
exactly, is the 320mil going to? The Sarawak State Govt, it says.
So, who is that? It's definitely not the people on the streets of
Sarawak. 320mil is going to one or two greedy pieces of sh*t while
Sawarak and its people continue to be "those poor East Malaysians who
need our (Read Malaya's) help".

PAS says ‘Allah’ can be used by Christians and others...

Posted by: sdalee
PAS says ‘Allah’ can be used by Christians and others.

PETALING JAYA: PAS says that the use of “Allah” is permitted among people of the Abrahamic faiths such as Christianity and Judaism.

Its president Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang made the statement that also supported the High Court’s decision that allowed the Christian weekly newsletter The Herald to use the word.

PAS also urged the public not to misuse the word “Allah” for cheap politicking to gain mass support.

Indonesians remembers Manohara and the Kelantan Prince

Manohara and the Malaysian Prince
Posted by: engleberthumpadink
A lot has not been said about this, for a long time.
No suprises of course, in the hope that Malaysians will just forget
about it. Not to forget the laws that prevent any form of critisism
about the royals, and the MSMs lack of any impartiality (in fact, lack
of any spine also).

But this week I was reminded about the whole sordid event, when I took
a New Years holiday to Indonesia. There we were, having a few drinks
over dinner and chatting, when the word Manohara turned up. It was an
Indonesian who mentioned it, and very well informed he was. I knew
enough to chat about it, but the Malaysians at the table were almost
totally in the dark (mainly because they don't read news online).

The main surpise I got though, was the statement of "ah come on, every
single person in Indonesia has heard of Manohara and the Prince".
"Really?" said I. So it was proven to me, when a waiter came past. He
was called over and asked, if he'd heard of Manohara, and can you
guess what? He knew all about it, the key gesture being a mimed
opening of the shirt. Over the next few days the same question was
asked of several random people - the bell boy in the hotel, the lady
in the dhobi, taxi drivers and barmen, they all knew the name
Manohara, they all knew the story of the escape from Singapore, and
all of them mimed taking off a shirt.

The general consensus is that it has given you lot a very bad
reputation indeed. Have you been wondering why suddenly Indonesian
people have been making random threats, and all of the seemingly
bizarre anti-Malaysian sentiments over the last few months. Well, look
no further for the root cause.

Malaysian Courts ruled that Christians can use the word Allah

From: Tanki <5191...@gmail.com>

Subject: Malaysian Courts ruled that Christians cannot use the word Allah

Government calls for calm over Allah court ruling issue
Posted by: allanlcw

Honestly, I'm amused by what is happening. Why should you even appeal?
As long as the Christian newsletter that uses the word "Allah" has a
tag saying "Strictly for Christian" or something along that line, I
don't think / see there should be any problem? Come on, let's view
this positively. This is religion matters, don't blow it out of
proportion. Respect each other religion rights and the right to use
any word they deem fit. As long as its not offensive to others
religion, i will personally think its alright.

Don't bring us back to a time where we can make use of "religion" to
do anything. Racial issues are already a blunder to us. Malaysia, set
an example to the rest of the world, a good example, a good tolerance
and perhaps it will give us the opportunity to live happily ever after
side by side and grow the country together.
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KUALA LUMPUR: The Government is calling for calm among Muslims and non-governmental organisations and asking everyone to respect the court’s decision over the use of the word Allah while it takes steps to appeal against the decision.

Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Major-General (Rtd) Datuk Jamil Khir Baharom said the groups should be patient and allow the matter to be resolved through the legal process.

“I will meet the NGOs soon to hear their views and to discuss further the matter with them,” he said in a statement on Saturday.

On Thursday, the High Court allowed the Catholic weekly, Herald, to use the word Allah.

Judge Datuk Lau Bee Lian had ruled that usage of the word was constitutional as long as the periodical was confined to educate the followers of the Christian faith.

Former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, meanwhile, said the High Court’s decision allowing the Catholic weekly publication to use the term Allah must be governed by strict conditions.

He said whatever justifications offered for the approval, it would not diffuse the anger of Muslims in the country.

“This is because ‘God’ in other religions is translated as ‘Tuhan’ in Bahasa Melayu or Arabic, not ‘Allah’. “Allah specifically refers to God in Islam. If they understand that, they would use the word ‘Tuhan’, not ‘Allah’.

“I accept the term ‘Allah’ had been used in Sabah and Sarawak before the two states joined Malaysia but it is difficult to stop them from doing so now... but in the peninsular, we have not heard of such practice,” he told reporters after presenting a keynote address at the Malay Undergraduates Convention at Universiti Malaysia Terengganu here on Saturday.

Dr Mahathir said what he was afraid of was that the term Allah might be used in such a way that could inflame the anger of Muslims.

“They may use it on banners or write something that might not reflect Islam,” he said.

In George Town, the police said it would station personnel outside the High Court building here Sunday following a planned demonstration by a Muslim non-governmental organisation.

State police chief Deputy Comm Datuk Wira Ayub Yaakob said his men would only move in if the demonstration turns chaotic.

“The protesters must know their limits,” he said when contacted.

DCP Ayub said police have not received any application for the gathering so far.

In Pasir Gudang, a group calling itself the Pemuda Islam Melayu Pasir Gudang held a peaceful demonstration in a field in Taman Mawar against the decision.

The group’s leader Ramli Ahmad, who is also Umno Pasir Gudang youth information chief, said non-Muslims should use the word God instead of Allah.

He said the Council of Malay Rulers should intervene in this issue.

Ipoh Express bus tragedy

Ipoh Express bus tragedy
Posted by: drchris

Improve the quality of drivers

The recent bus crash that killed 10 passengers in Ipoh was a real tragedy that could have been avoided if only certain rules were adhered to by the driver, his employer who owns Sani Express and the relevant enforcement agencies involved in ensuring safety of public transportation. The tragedy also highlights certain weaknesses in the transportation industry that should be remedied if we want to prevent recurrences in the future. It appears that we have not learnt from the experience of the Bukit Gantang tragedy 2 years ago where 22 people lost their lives in a similar accident on our highways.

The 38 year old driver of the ill-fated bus was reported to have a clean record and the bus was new and in good condition. The driver however has admitted that he fell asleep at the wheels at the time of the accident. It is clear that he was too exhausted to drive in the first place let alone handling a double-decker bus in the wee hours. Why did he continue despite feeling sleepy and tired? Why was he allowed to continue without adequate rest? The Transport Ministry has clear guidelines on road safety for express buses including working hours and rest for drivers. Why were these not adhered to?

Double-decker buses are meant more for use within the city and may not be ideal for highway driving as they are generally less stable at higher speeds. Handling of these buses is different and requires more skills than the usual single-tiered ones. The drivers of such buses need special training to handle them especially during emergencies. The transport ministry must come up with proper guidelines for the safe operation of these buses as they have become necessary due to the increasing number of travellers especially during holidays and festive periods.

Low wages is the underlying cause of poor quality of express bus drivers. Financial demands forces them to undertake long working hours which virtually drains them off their physical and mental energy when they report for work especially for late night driving. It is not uncommon these days for workers, particularly from the lower income group, to resort to multiple jobs to boost their income. Relying on income from a single job will not be enough to make ends meet considering the high cost of living particularly in urban areas.

Bus companies must operate their services more professionally and be responsible for the comfort and safety of the passengers. Though profits are important it must not be at the expense of the safety of the passengers. They must recruit drivers with the right attitude and commitment by higher wages and better perks. These would not only attract better and experienced drivers but will reduce their need for multiple jobs or working long hours thereby will be in better mental and physical state when they report for duty.

The government should keep the pressure on bus companies to ensure that safety measures are not comprised for monetary gains. Better wages, perks, regulated working hours and training for them will go a long way to ensure a more committed and responsible fleet of drivers operating the express buses plying our roads and highways.

The job of an express bus driver, like a pilot, is a very responsible one as the lives of many are in his hands. Unless we take it seriously and get only the best for the job there is no way of preventing further tragedies like this. The Ipoh tragedy offers another lesson for the authorities to improve buck up.Whether they learn from it is yet to be seen.

It is time for the government to improve other forms of public transportation as our roads and highways are fast becoming congested and too risky for travel especially during weekends, holidays and festive periods. Even the rest areas are too congested for drivers to take a break even if they is hungry, tired or sleepy.

Move is on to rush Anwar trial

Posted by: jimmycth

SHAH ALAM: As 2010 dawns, the Malaysian court is making an attempt to bulldoze its sodomy case against Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim through the courts.

Anwar’s lawyer S.N. Nair said the Registrar of the Federal Court–the highest judicial authority–is trying to force his firm under impossible circumstances to go ahead with the hearing of an appeal on Jan 6.

“The procedure adopted in relation to the matter is certainly unprecedented and does not, and cannot, serve the end of justice,” said Nair in a statement .

The statement from S.N.Nair and Partners reads:

“In relation to the section 51A Criminal Procedure Code documents, the Court of Appeal allowed the appeal of the Public Prosecutor on 6.11.2009 following which, on 17.11.2009, Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim appealed to the Federal Court against that decision.

“By fax transmission dated 29.12.2009, my firm was informed by the Registry of the Federal Court that the Federal Court had fixed the date of hearing of the appeal on 6.1.2010.

“In the same letter of notification, my firm was also asked to file the Petition of Appeal on an urgent basis.

“ My firm was taken aback by this development because the Record of Appeal had yet to be served on us as at the date of notification of the hearing.

“On 30.12.2009, my firm received a letter dated 23.12.2009 through Poslaju, serving on my firm the Record of Appeal and the Additional Record of Appeal. By Rule 95(1) of the Rules of the Federal Court 1995, my firm is required to file a Petition of Appeal within a period of ten days after service of the Record of Appeal.

“ Clearly, in the circumstances, the Petition of Appeal is required to be filed by 9.1.2010.

“The 9.1.2010, which being a Saturday and therefore a holiday, with Sunday being an intervening holiday, my firm is required to file the Petition of Appeal by 11.1.2010.

“It is impossible under the circumstances for the hearing of the appeal to proceed on the 6.1.2010.

“In any event, Mr. S. N. Nair of our firm who is the solicitor in charge, left for India on 28.12.2009 and is only due to return in the late evening of 5.1.2010.

“The procedure adopted in relation to the matter herein is certainly unprecedented and does not, and cannot, serve the end of justice.”

Anwar has maintained that the allegation against him is politically motivated by the government of Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak.

He was charged with sodomy in 1998 after being sacked by former Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad and forced to serve time in jail but the charges were ultimately quashed during the reign of Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi.

The latest move against to speedily put him on trial on Jan 25 is seen by his supporters as an attempt to remove him from the political scene.

Legal circles have been questioning the rejection of Anwar’s application to strike out the sodomy charges.

When fixing the dates for the hearing from Jan 25 to to Feb 25, judge Mohamad Zabidin Mohd Diah ruled that medical reports could not serve as the basis for the court to use its inherent powers to strike out the charge.

However, the court ruling was met with cynicism from opposition lawyers who dismissed the judgment as political in nature.

According to a Nut Graph report, the Court of Appeal’s interpretation of Section 51A of the Criminal Procedure Code (CPC), by which it made its judgment, is worrisome from a justice perspective.

The judgment nullifies the efforts of the parliamentary select committee which proposed the CPC amendments in 2006 requiring pre-trial disclosure by the prosecution to the defence.

The legislature’s intention was to “prevent trial by ambush” but the Court of Appeal’s judgment in Anwar’s sodomy case seems to overturn that principle.

But is Section 51A as clear cut as it was meant to be? And is splitting hairs over its meaning scuppering Anwar’s chances for a fair trial?

Section 51A was introduced to widen the scope of evidence that the defence could obtain from the prosecution. At first reading, it comes across as a clear obligation for the prosecution to make available to the defence evidence that it intends to use during trial.

Section 51A . Delivery of certain documents

1. The prosecution shall before the commencement of the trial deliver to the accused the following documents:

a. A copy of the information made under Section 107 relating to the commission of the offence to which the accused is charged, if any;

b. A copy of any document which would be tendered as part of the evidence for the prosecution; and

c. A written statement of facts favourable to the defence of the accused signed under the hand of the Public Prosecutor or any person conducting the prosecution.

The meanings of the words “shall” and “any document” are clear, a member of the Bar Council’s criminal law committee, Baljit Singh Sidhu, who is also the author of Criminal Litigation Process, has been quoted as saying.

“The intention of 51A is to put both parties in a trial on equal footing in the interest of justice. That was parliament’s intent. The word ’shall’ should be taken to mean ‘must.’

“If the court does not interpret ’shall’ as being mandatory, then there is no point to the amendment.”

Baljit is also Gerakan Federal Territory legal adviser.

“Any document” should also be taken to mean any type of evidence, Baljit adds. It is all the more important when it involves evidence like DNA, for which scientific expertise and time are required if defence lawyers are to analyse it.

However, the Court of Appeal in Anwar’s sodomy case decided there were “limits” as to the kind of evidence the prosecution could be asked to produce before a trial.

Hence, it overturned the High Court’s decision ordering the prosecution to hand over evidence, which included video footage, medical reports, doctors’ notes, and witness statements of alleged victim Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan and others.

The bench, in rejecting Anwar’s cross-appeal for DNA specimens held by the prosecution, also said that the evidence requested did not fall under the category of evidence in 51A.

“The amendment [to the CPC] is as good as non-existent,” Anwar’s lawyer Nair was quoted as saying.

Msia Hypermarts should lower cost of essential goods

From: Tanki <5191...@gmail.com>

Subject: Msia Hypermarts should lower cost of essential goods

Posted by: ralphyew
The hypermarkets out there should serve the interest of the loyal
customers by continuously lowering the selling price of essential
goods. The hypermarkets must do its part to lower further selling
price of most goods in their stores since the consumers will see this
as a win-win effort and will further patronage the hypermarts and
stores with the best price in town.

So for 2010 my wish is for the hypermarts to lower the price of
essential goods. Hypermarkets do make an effort to drive the selling
price of goods lower and help to counter the country's inflation. It
is only fair to treat your loyal consumers with a fair price every
day.

Google Talk to replace all line telephones?

From: Tanki <5191...@gmail.com>
Subject: Google Talk to replace all line telephones?

Google Talk is a software of instant messaging and especially offers
the following features:
- Instant messaging: chat with all your contacts, Google Talk and real-
time Gmail.
- Free vocal calls from PC to PC: you can call free of charge the
persons who possess the Google Talk customer when they are connected.
- Sending and reception of vocal messages: if the person whom you call
is not available, you can leave a vocal message.
-Immediate announcements of Gmail on your desk: when you are connected
to Google Talk, you are warned of the reception of new messages in
Gmail.

Malaysia bus crash killers

From: "Alexx"
Subject: Re: Malaysia bus crash blogspot

Not only buses. All moving things on the road are subjected to crashes and
dangers. The best way to avoid these dangers are to ban completely all type
of vehicles including bicycles. Go back to the old days where automobiles
were not invented and people go about riding bullock carts. By then, we
shouldn't be worry about prices of petrol, but should be more concerned
about having large patches of land to grow grasses to feed the cows,
buffaloes and horses.

"ticktolk" wrote in message

> Whoa.....just read here:

> http://buscrashnomore.blogspot.com/

> Someone must be really unhappy with the Malaysia express bus service which
> seems to have the habit of klling their passengers lately.

> As i can see, there are only 3 options available to the Malaysian govt:

> 1. Stop all overnight express bus service after 11 pm on all Malaysian
> toll roads. That means buses can only operate from 6 am to 11 pm. If
> passengers need to travel overnight on Malaysia road, they can either
> travel by air, by rail or find their own mode of transport.

> 2. Stop all overnight express bus service after 8 pm and force all
> passenger to travel by air since there are so many empty air field and
> plenty of low cost airline not fully ultilised.

> 3. Continue the overnight express bus service but bus ticket will no
> longer be cheap. Bus passengers will need to pay an extra RM$50 per
> passenger surcharge (on top of usual bus ticket price) to bus companies
> for their safe journey overnight. That means 20 passengers on a single 40
> seater bus will mean RM1000 for bus driver per trip. Bus companies are
> therefore obligated to hire good drivers.