IGP have u got your priorities correct?

From: "haji ariffin"
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 19:41:39 +1000
Local: Fri, May 29 2009 5:41 pm
Subject: IGP have got your priorities correct?

Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan said that the police is now
looking to turn to the Interpol to track down Raja Petra Kamaruddin, the
editor of Malaysia Today as he is known to have left the country. this came
about after another arrest warrant was issued as he failed to attend court.
He said "We will cooperate with our counterparts' to track him down but if
necessary, we will ask for Interpol's help,"


From: b...@b.com (Polar Bear)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:01:57 GMT
Local: Fri, May 29 2009 6:01 pm

poooh, the IGP, has he got any credibility left?


From: adrian chin
Date: 29 May 2009 18:49:34 +0800
Local: Fri, May 29 2009 6:49 pm

RPK is now a wanted man ?? The IGP can always write RPK a message on
Facebook if need to .

Malaysiakini win against Taib

Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:25:15 +0800
Local: Thurs, May 28 2009 12:25 pm
Subject: malaysiakini win against taib

malaysiakini win against taib in the case of
publication of taib's corruption, a true account.

now taib must sue the japanese government if he wants to redeem himself.
japanese government waiting.
now taib issued order not to sell to japanese
that he nearly bankrupted ta ann, his company held by proxies
main earner of ta ann is export of logs to japan
taib banned all publication of the matter and also have to withdraw
defamation suit against PR taib talking to japanese
ambassdor to try to get japan to retract their
allegation the japanese ambassador gave taib mahmud a kite made in japan
in his sorrow, taib can consol himself playing it .

From: adrian chin
Date: 28 May 2009 13:35:43 +0800
Local: Thurs, May 28 2009 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: malaysiakini win against taib

Personally, I don't see why Taib is so incensed about the article. It's
not like anything will happen to him wat. You think the Govt is going to
remove him from office because of that article ?? Life will go on as
normal for everyone, so I don't see why need to be so sensitive

Telling your wife she's not pretty may soon be an offence

From: b...@b.com (Polar Bear)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 03:41:00 GMT
Subject: Telling your wife she's not pretty may soon be an offence

Winn nagging be made an offence, LOL

Wed, May 27, 2009


KOTA KINABALU, MALAYSIA: A husband telling his wife that she is no longer pretty
in an attempt to humiliate her can be classified as an emotional violence
offence if amendments are made to the Domestic Violence Act (DVA)1994.

The plan is to amend the DVA for the inclusion of a clause on emotional violence
against women.

Currently, they are only protected only against physical abuse, Women's
Development Department director-general Datuk Dr Noorul Ainur Mohd Nur said.
She said on Wednesday that the aim for proposing the amendment was to safeguard
women both physically and emotionally.

Dr Noorul said emotional violence was a form of abuse that would deeply scar a
woman and lower their self-esteem, dignity and self-confidence.

It could be a case where her husband tells his wife she is ugly or humiliates
her until she feels emotionally pressured,? she told reporters at the end of a
seminar on how to curb violence against women at Wisma Wanita here.

She added they were in the process of bringing the proposed amendments to
State Community development and Consumer Affairs Minister Datuk Azizah Mohd Dun
closed the seminar organised by Sabah Women?s Affairs Department.

Azizah, in her speech, said that there was a need for the law to protect
emotional violence against women.

Azizah said there were a total of 99 cases of violence against women in Sabah in
the first quarter of 2009 compared to 220 cases during the same period last year
which was reported to the police.

From: adrian chin
Date: 28 May 2009 13:43:38 +0800
Local: Thurs, May 28 2009 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: Telling your wife she's not pretty may soon be an offence

I hope they don't include telling my wife that she's fat. I better start
collecting and keeping before and after marriage photos now, lest I end
up in court for uttering that she's fat now.

MALAYSIANS facing Recession Big Time!

Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:19:23 +0800
Local: Thurs, May 28 2009 11:19 am
Subject: M'SIAN facing true outlook, ITS RECESSION BIG TIME

the BN gov'n had lied again
najid had lied again
we had contraction since last qtr.
huge one and also the 1st qtr. also huge one
we are in recession, big time
the government now must print tons of money for stimulus package
if the money keep on going into croynist pockets
this will be big time devaluation of the ringgit
can najid prints more money without giving to croynists
impossible, when he dare not even to go for election
najid is an extremely weak leader
with investors running, devaluation of ringgit and more mismanagement from
politic falls out
malaysian is in for big time recession
probably depression

From: Juli Edison
Date: Thu, 28 May 09 04:24:14 +0000
Local: Thurs, May 28 2009 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: M'SIAN facing true outlook, ITS RECESSION BIG TIME

we are tiny/small economy.
as such we have no need to print more money
money supply within the economy is enough to ride us out of this recession
let those cronyists flee
the gunmen do not print money, only national bank does that
malaysia is in moderate recession

From: b...@b.com (Polar Bear)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 05:01:37 GMT
Local: Thurs, May 28 2009 1:01 pm
Subject: Re: M'SIAN facing true outlook, ITS RECESSION BIG TIME

make sure he is the last PM from BN

Why the world hasn't collapsed: Fareed Zakaria

From: "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad"
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:37:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, May 17 2009 1:37 pm
Subject: Why the world hasn't collapsed: Fareed Zakaria

Fareed Zakaria is a favourite editor of mine. When all the other
editors of Newsweek, a magazine that I used to subscribe, had made
mistakes, especially about Islam, Fareed Zakaria was the only one
sounding the words of wisdom.

His analysis of the current economic and health disasters is an
excellent article. Don't be fooled by the "wolf cry" at the first
paragraph. Read on and find out how we should be vigilant while
finding out why the world is still safe now.

In summary. It is not that there are no threats but the world has
progressed far in responding to them but it is the fear of these
historic disasters that made the world respond the way it is.

A lot of people dismiss the current Swine Flu as a normal flu very
remote from the Spanish Flu but it is not true. The reason why there
are few casualties are due to the advancement of our health care

Similarly for the depressionary effects of the collapse of banks
currently. The impact is not as great because there are now social
security benefits given out by governments in addition to the massive
support given to banks.

It certainly looks like another example of crying wolf. After bracing
ourselves for a global pandemic, we've suffered something more like
the usual seasonal influenza. Three weeks ago the World Health
Organization declared a health emergency, warning countries to
"prepare for a pandemic" and said that the only question was the
extent of worldwide damage. Senior officials prophesied that millions
could be infected by the disease. But as of last week, the WHO had
confirmed only 4,800 cases of swine flu, with 61 people having died of
it. Obviously, these low numbers are a pleasant surprise, but it does
make one wonder, what did we get wrong?

Why did the predictions of a pandemic turn out to be so exaggerated?
Some people blame an overheated media, but it would have been
difficult to ignore major international health organizations and
governments when they were warning of catastrophe. I think there is a
broader mistake in the way we look at the world. Once we see a
problem, we can describe it in great detail, extrapolating all its
possible consequences. But we can rarely anticipate the human response
to that crisis.

Take swine flu. The virus had crucial characteristics that led
researchers to worry that it could spread far and fast. They described—
and the media reported—what would happen if it went unchecked. But it
did not go unchecked. In fact, swine flu was met by an extremely
vigorous response at its epicenter, Mexico. The Mexican government
reacted quickly and massively, quarantining the infected population,
testing others, providing medication to those who needed it. The noted
expert on this subject, Laurie Garrett, says, "We should all stand up
and scream, 'Gracias, Mexico!' because the Mexican people and the
Mexican government have sacrificed on a level that I'm not sure as
Americans we would be prepared to do in the exact same circumstances.
They shut down their schools. They shut down businesses, restaurants,
churches, sporting events. They basically paralyzed their own economy.
They've suffered billions of dollars in financial losses still being
tallied up, and thereby really brought transmission to a halt."

Every time one of these viruses is detected, writers and officials
bring up the Spanish influenza epidemic of 1918 in which millions of
people died. Indeed, during the last pandemic scare, in 2005,
President George W. Bush claimed that he had been reading a history of
the Spanish flu to help him understand how to respond. But the world
we live in today looks nothing like 1918. Public health-care systems
are far better and more widespread than anything that existed during
the First World War. Even Mexico, a developing country, has a first-
rate public-health system—far better than anything Britain or France
had in the early20th century.

One can see this same pattern of mistakes in discussions of the global
economic crisis. Over the last six months, the doomsday industry has
moved into high gear. Economists and business pundits are competing
with each other to describe the next Great Depression. Except that the
world we live in bears little resemblance to the1930 s. There is much
greater and more widespread wealth in Western societies, with middle
classes that can withstand job losses in ways that they could not in
the1930s. Bear in mind, unemployment in the non-farm sector in America
rose to 37 percent in the 1930s. Unemployment in the United States
today is 8.9 percent. And government benefits—nonexistent in the '30s—
play a vast role in cushioning the blow from an economic slowdown.

The biggest difference between the 1930s and today, however, lies in
the human response. Governments across the world have reacted with
amazing speed and scale, lowering interest rates, recapitalizing banks
and budgeting for large government expenditures. In total, all the
various fiscal--stimulus packages amount to something in the range of
$2 trillion. Central banks—mainly the Federal Reserve—have pumped in
much larger amounts of cash into the economy. While we debate the
intricacies of each and every move—is the TALF well -structured?—the
basic reality is that governments have thrown everything but the
kitchen sink at this problem and, taking into account the inevitable
time lag, their actions are already taking effect. That does not mean
a painless recovery or a return to robust growth. But it does mean
that we should retire the analogies to the Great Depression, when -
policymakers—especially cen-tral banks—did everything wrong.

We're living in a dangerous world. But we are also living in a world
in which deep, structural forces create stability. We have learned
from history and built some reasonably effective mechanisms to handle
crises. Does that mean we shouldn't panic? Yes, except that it is the
sense of urgency that makes people act—even overreact—and ensures that
a crisis doesn't mutate into a disaster. Here's the paradox: if
policymakers hadn't been scared of another Great Depression, there
might well have been one.

Zakaria’s latest book, The Post-American World, about The Rise Of
India, China And Òthe rest,Ó has been released this month as a
paperback by W.W. Norton & Co.

Malaysia racial ties fragile 40 years after riots

From: RichAsianKid
Subject: Malaysia racial ties fragile 40 years after riots

The most pragmatic reflex is that racial tensions wouldn't and couldn't
exist if there simply aren't different races living side-by-side
competing for the same territory and resources to begin with.

Japanese practical wisdom resonates. As usual.

Ethnic Indians are
sprayed water by riot police during a street protest in Kuala Lumpur.
Malaysia marks the 40th anniversary of the riots, an explosion of
violence that was never repeated on that scale, new squabbles over
racial rights are bubbling up, blocking hopes of turning this veneer of
harmony into true camaraderie among ethnic communities. (AP
Photo/Vincent Thian, file)

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- The last time Lee Hung Poh walked unassisted
was 40 years ago, before a bullet fired in the heat of Malaysia's worst
race riots sliced through her spine and shattered her future.

Neither the 57-year-old Lee nor her country has ever completely recovered.

To be sure, Malaysia, a Southeast Asian nation of 27 million people, has
been remarkably stable since the weeklong mayhem that began May 13,
1969. But as the country marks the 40th anniversary of the riots, its
uneasy racial detente is coming under stress.

Ethnic Chinese and Indians, the two largest minorities, have become more
vocal in demanding racial equality in part because of growing economic
hardships, and Indians staged unprecedented public protests in November
2007. Mindful of the mounting disenchantment, a new prime minister is
proposing a partial rollback of a main legacy of the riots, an
affirmative action program for the majority Malays.

If change goes smoothly, it may be for the better. As Malaysians have
grown wealthier and better educated, they have demanded a more open
discussion of race, and the government has acquiesced to a degree. But
the shift is also stirring old passions - the Malays and Chinese in
particular don't fully trust each other - and therein lies a risk.

Several Malay ruling party officials have pledged to defend affirmative
action "to the last drop of blood," and a top Malay newspaper urged
Malays last month to "rise and unite."

"All of us want peaceful lives, nobody wants to fight each other. But
you read the newspaper and keep seeing problems with racial issues,"
said Lee, who locks herself at home every May 13 for fear of breaking
down in public if the memories overwhelm her.

The bloodshed of 1969, which took at least 200 lives, erupted when
Malaysia was still emerging from the legacy of colonial rule, only a
dozen years after attaining independence from Britain.

Racial divisions ran deep. The Malays held political power but were
largely poor. The Chinese, many of whose ancestors immigrated in the
18th century, had prospered through trade and tin mining. Indians,
mostly laborers, had little say in politics or business.

The riots were sparked by politics. Chinese opposition supporters, whose
parties made sweeping election gains, held a victory march in Kuala
Lumpur and jeered at residents in Malay neighborhoods. The Malays staged
their own rally, and in ensuing clashes, mobs armed with pistols and
knives roamed the streets, killed people of other races and torched
their homes.

The carnage changed Malaysia's course.

Seeking to curb economic disparities, the government launched an
affirmative action program in 1971 that enabled Malays to get into
universities more easily, buy homes at reduced prices and enter business
through rules requiring many companies to be partly Malay-owned. The
main government-funded schools teach in the Malay language, while
schools that use Chinese and Tamil get less aid.

Many Malays prospered. Their share of corporate wealth surged from 2.4
percent in 1970 to about 20 percent today, and they make up nearly
two-thirds of the population.

The minorities say it is time to wind up the program. Chinese make up a
quarter of the population and own about 40 percent of corporate equity.
Indians are about 8 percent of the population and have a stake of less
than 2 percent, while the remainder is mostly foreign ownership.

Complaints about affirmative action and religious disputes - such as the
demolition of Indian Hindu temples on illegal sites by Malay authorities
- became more apparent during the tenure of former Prime Minister
Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who governed for five years from October 2003. He
is credited with allowing more space for discussions of long-sensitive
issues in the government-controlled media and on independent Internet

"There has been a maturing of Malaysian democracy in trying to resolve
disputes," said Denison Jayasooria, a researcher at the Institute of
Ethnic Studies at the National University of Malaysia. "What people want
is more public openness and intellectual discussion on race."

The wider freedoms led to clearer expressions of dissent, such as a
street protest in Kuala Lumpur two years ago where tens of thousands of
Indians demanded economic fairness. Police quelled the protest with tear
gas, and five organizers were jailed under a security act that allows
indefinite detention without trial. Two were freed recently.

Minorities also voiced their discontent through the ballot box. In the
March 2008 general elections, Chinese and Indians overwhelmingly voted
against the long-ruling National Front coalition, which now governs with
its lowest parliamentary majority in more than 50 years. Abdullah took
the blame for the loss and stepped down, handing power to his deputy
Najib Razak.

Many high-profile disputes are religious in nature. Minorities have
complained that Islamic courts - not secular courts - are given
jurisdiction in family disputes that involve both Muslims and
non-Muslims. Some Malay Muslims consider these complaints as a threat to
the status of Islam, the country's official religion.

Nonetheless, even some Malays agree that it is time to at least review
affirmative action so that it benefits all the poor. Advocates of this
include Nazir Razak, the prominent banker brother of new prime minister.

Najib, who took power in early April, says affirmative action is still
needed but can be diluted. Last month, he scrapped a requirement for 30
percent Malay ownership in several sectors, such as health and
transport, to lure foreign investment to the floundering economy.

He also mounted a massive publicity campaign called "1 Malaysia" to
promote racial solidarity and made several surprise appearances at
religious festivities of Indians.

"No one should assume that they are second-class citizens in this
country," Najib said.

In a bid to display fairness to all religious groups, Najib's Cabinet
announced last month it would forbid religious conversion of minors
without the consent of both parents. This followed high-profile legal
spats in which people who embraced Islam changed their children's
religion despite protests from non-Muslim spouses.

Najib's administration has shown "some kind of intention to break with
the past," said Ibrahim Suffian, director of the independent Merdeka
Center research firm. "People will be watching to see if it is backed up
by effective implementation."

The recent disputes about race have raised concerns about upsetting what
has long been a delicate balance. As Ibrahim puts it: "On a
people-to-people level, the relationships feel quite positive. There is
the sentiment that everyone has a shared fate. Agitating the situation
would only ruin it for everyone."

In the capital of Kuala Lumpur, office workers from all races work
together relatively amicably. Lunch crowds include Chinese women in
skirts and Malay women draped in multicolored, loose-flowing dresses.
Very often, they can be seen tucking into "dosa" rice pancake and curry,
an Indian favorite.

Though most people still have friends predominantly of their own race,
there is interethnic interaction and respect. For example, many Chinese
avoid eating pork in the presence of Malay companions.

"There are still racial and religious differences, but there's no
widespread chaotic situation," said Jayasooria, the National University
of Malaysia researcher. "It's a live-and-let-live situation, where
nobody will be shouting at other races on the street."

History textbooks, referring to the May 13 riots, warn that racial
harmony must be nurtured. The last deadly clash - between Malays and
Indians - was in 2001 when six people were killed.

Lee, the Chinese woman shot in the riots and paralyzed from the waist
down, believes that if she can shed the bitterness that once consumed
her, others can too.

"I used to hate (the Malays) because of what happened to me," she said
in a wheelchair behind the counter of a tiny grocery store that she
opened several years ago.

"Time hasn't made me well again. I never got the chance to get married.
I'm lonely and I live by myself. So of course I'm sad but I'm not angry
with anybody anymore."

how i live in m'sia and live happily

From: "just a thought"
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:41:59 +0800
Local: Tues, May 12 2009 5:41 pm
Subject: how i live in m'sia and live happily

my expectation is very low

i expect streamyx to work 10% efficiently and working 50% of the time

i do not expect to make anything from the government or any ybs

i do not want to be in any business that depend on licenses or quota

i do not want to have account with any local malaysian bank

i do not want to borrow any money

i do not want to go to posh places to meet or see any of those corruptors or
dishonest in the government

i treat most things in the newspaper as jokes

i treat najid as a joker worst then me

i treat the bn government as a pack of free for all

i treat the opposition as a lost cause

i treat fellow malaysian as mental, retard or just useful

always telling myself, i am a nomad

i am an EXPARTIATE, a tourist, on sightseeing, looking at the funny movies
going on

i do not invest

i do not want to own a car

i do not want to own any property

for money, i earn it daily from oversea and get some to use from née foreign
credit card

i treat the police like thieving monkey and just avoid them

hopefully there is always runners for me to use dealing with civil services

in general, i treat the whole place like a mud pit.
everywhere is messy dirt, you just stay quietly in a corner
and watch the never ending bullshit going in front of you

i enjoy the perak episode a lot
i thought this plot is only found it movie
in malaysia you see it in front and unveiling dramatically



Do you agree with the Appeal court's decision?

From: "samsuddin"
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 08:38:16 +1000
Local: Sun, May 24 2009 6:38 am
Subject: Do you agree with the Appeal court's decision?

Do you? Should there be a re election called to let the public or citizenry
of Perak decide who is to govern?


BN 's credibility had just moved a rung lower with this latest judgement (or misjudgement?).

Raiding Opposition PAP HQ

Newsgroups: soc.culture.malaysia
From: b...@b.com (Polar Bear)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 06:08:36 GMT
Local: Sun, May 24 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Raiding Opposition HQ

Pui, Najib is just another UMNO fucker


Najib will start another May 13 soon, just like his father did in 1969.

Soon there will be no voting in Malaysia

From: "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad"
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:53:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 23 2009 10:53 am
Subject: Soon there will be no voting in Malaysia

Those of you who hate voting will realise your dreams. The recent
appeal court has decided that it is not necessary to vote in order to
make a decision regarding "confidence of the majority" since there is
no mention of it in the phrase that any voting is required.

Similarly for all elections. There is no such word in the phrase in
determining that an assembly man has the confidence of the registered
voters which is to be decided by the Election Commission.

You may argue that votes are to be counted in an election but
similarly for all elected house assemblies. Votes should be counted.
Now a show of hand is sufficient. Similarly for the Election
Commission just because there is no word in the sentence that voting
is required in order to determine the person who has the confidence of
the voters.

The court is very clear in stating that this applies only to the Perak
Assembly which implies that the Federal Assembly is a different case
but the wordings of these constitutions and Election acts are similar.
There are no specific words which state that voting is required in
order to determine the person who has the confidence of the voters or

Of course it should not be applied to all cases, but what stops the
judges from declaring similar judgements? Nothing at all.

Many of you will be happy that you don't even have to vote. Maybe just
write a piece of letter or petition in return for huge sums of money.
It will be more beneficial for most Malaysian voters and much cheaper
for the Election Commissions.

Hasn't the Elections Commissions and especially BN government
complained that Elections COST TOO MUCH??? Many voters even complained
the voting is too much hassle and costly.

Soon your wish will be answered. But Malaysian will fall into the
drain much worse than Zimbabwe because even Zimbabwean judges dare not
make such a judgement, and voting is still practised despite all the
costs in money and lives.

Singapore-Malaysia Bridge again

From: b...@b.com (Polar Bear)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 06:08:21 GMT
Local: Fri, May 22 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Singapore-Malaysia Bridge again

So, this is the reason Mahathir supports Najib, he will bring up the bridge
subject again.

Any donkey with only IQ if 80 can figure out that the bridge or causeway is not
the issue. It;s all about process of clearing people and vehicles faster to
smoothen the flow, and building a good rapid transit to integrate into the 2
countries public transport.

Again, I like how one Malaysian describe about Malaysia goverment. All the
projects make sense when you realize that the UMNO and their cronies are the
only ones making profits. Everything makes sense.

Zambry confirmed unlawful mentri besar of Perak

Newsgroups: soc.culture.malaysia
From: "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad"
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:34:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, May 22 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Reasons why Malaysian Judiciary is Unfair


The Malaysian Insider
Friday May 22 2009
Mohamed Hanipa Maidin sits on the Pas central committee and is the Pas
legal adviser. He is also a lawyer who blogs at peguampas.

Perplexing judiciary in Perak lawsuit

MAY 18 — As of today it is undisputable that Datuk Seri Zambry Abdul
Kadir is a confirmed unlawful mentri besar of Perak. On the other hand
Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin is a confirmed lawful mentri besar of
Perak. That is the gist of the high court’s decision delivered by
Justice Datuk Abdul Aziz on May 11, 2009.

How about the stay order granted by a single Judge of the court of
Appeal on May 12, 2009 ? Does the stay order invalidate the high
court’s decision? The short answer is a resounding no.

The stay order merely bars the lawful mentri besar from carrying out
his lawful duties and in turn allows the unlawful mentri besar to
continue performing his unlawful duties. That is the gist of the court
of appeal’s decision delivered on May 12, 2009.

When the high court judge made a decision allowing all the prayers
sought by Nizar in his judicial review application, the learned high
court judge, to his credit, gave a reasoned judgment.

Therein he discussed in great detail all the points canvassed by all
parties in their respective submissions. Armed with such a reasoned
decision, the people are not kept in the dark as to the reasons why
Nizar won the suit.

On the contrary there were glaring absences of reason as to why the
stay order was granted to Zambry thus the court of appeal has kept the
people in the dark. Justice demands a reasoned judgment from the court
whenever it allows or dismisses any application made by any litigants.

In all Perak suits which have landed in the highest court so far,
neither the court of appeal nor the Federal court paid attention to
this vital aspect of the court’s process namely the preparation of
reasoned judgments.

No judgment was prepared when the court of appeal allowed V.
Sivakumar’s appeal against the decision of Ridzuan J. denying
Sivakumar’s right of appointing his own solicitors.

When the court of appeal dismissed Nizar’s appeal against the decision
of Justice Lau Bee Lan which allowed the Attorney General’s
application to refer Nizar’s suit to the Federal court, the court of
appeal also failed to write any grounds of judgment.

When the Federal court overturned Lau Bee Lan’s decision allowing the
Attorney General’s application to refer Nizar’s suit to the Federal
court, the apex court could not be bothered to prepare written grounds
of judgment setting out the reasons why the high court’s decisions
deserved to be reversed.

The request made by Nizar’s lawyers for a written judgment was only
met with the following reply by our judiciary : “ the court will not
provide any ground of judgment.”

It is common knowledge especially amongst the legal fraternity that
the issue cropped up in the Federal court involved a very important
and fascinating constitutional issue. The utter failure of the apex
court to prepare a reasoned judgment in such an important case speaks
volumes of judicial dexterity.

When the Federal court allowed Zambry’s suit against Sivakumar, once
again the Federal court did not write any written judgment. Everybody
was expecting that the Federal court would prepare a reasoned decision
for such an important decision.

After all the Federal court disregarded the doctrine of separation of
powers thus nullified the earlier five judgments given by Malaysian
judges of impeccable integrity. Unfortunately no reasons were given as
to why the court came to that finding.

In view of the above scenario, it came as no surprise when Datuk Ramly
J. failed to prepare any written judgment when he granted the order of
stay favouring Zambry. To date we are unable to know what are the
special circumstances necessitating the grant of such a stay order.

The argument that if Nizar was not barred from acting as a lawful
mentri besar , he would dissolve the state assembly is, with due
respect, misconceived in law. It presupposes the power to dissolve the
state assembly is vested in Nizar. Definitely such a reason does not
qualify as special circumstance justifying the order of stay.

Perak crisis has attracted media frenzy domestically.

The lawsuit deals with many constitutional issues of great
consequence. In other jurisdictions one would expect the court in
particular the apex court takes pride in preparing a ground of

Writing a ground of judgment is part of judicial process hence it must
be seen as a sacrosanct duty and exalted task. Unfortunately the Perak
lawsuit seems to suggest that this vital judicial exercise is no
longer seen as a lofty act done with profound enthusiasm.

When the highest courts of the land failed to prepare a judgment in
such an important lawsuit , the only conclusion which may be
justifiably drawn is that the courts are not fully confident to share
the reasons with the people at large.

The old adage that justice must not only be done but must manifestly
be seen to be done has unfortunately escaped the attention of our

It is germane here to share the following sentiment of former Lord
President Tun Salleh Abas when he gave the following advice to his
then judicial brethren

“We hope that Judges should endeavour to write their grounds of
decision and take delight in this aspect of judicial work as a matter
of personal pride and satisfaction and not as a burden. Failure on the
part of judges to write their grounds of decision will certainly
undermine their authority to insist upon magistrates and presidents of
sessions court to write theirs. If the practice of not writing grounds
of judgment is widespread the system of administration of justice will
tumble down.”

Nizar and by extension the people of Perak are not only perplexed by
the failure of the court to prepare a judgment but also overwhelmed by
the conduct of our judiciary in failing to fix an early date for
Nizar’s application to set aside the stay order.

The judiciary is bound to explain to the public why Zambry could
easily get the hearing date on the same day he filed his application
for a stay of execution. Zambry filed his application on May 12 and
obtained the hearing date and in turn the stay order on the same date.

Nizar filed his application on May 14 and was only given the hearing
date on May 18 despite having a certificate of urgency. The hearing
date which was initially fixed on May 18 was subsequently changed to
May 21 — the same day the hearing of Zambry’s appeal. If this is not
discriminatory, please do tell what is?

By fixing Nizar’s application on the same day of Zambry’s appeal, the
people perceive that that the rule of the game has been unduly
changed. It is no longer seen as a fair game governed by transparent
and unbiased umpire.

The public perception is that that the umpire namely the court is seen
to be more sympathetic to Zambry than Nizar. The court should have
avoided doing something which led to such a negative perception.

The people need to know why the court failed to appreciate the urgency
of Nizar’s application as it did to Zambry so much so Nizar’s
application has now become academic and fruitless. Why there is a need
to have Nizar’s application heard on May 21 when Zambry’s appeal is
also fixed on the same date. Like it or not, this is a mockery of the
first order.

Whatever reasons given by our judiciary on such a regrettable
incidence, it is very hard for the people to believe that the dented
image of our judiciary has been duly and fully repaired. Under such
circumstances, can the people be faulted if they have misgivings about
our judiciary?

Bumiputra status for all born after independence?

From: Prophet Mohamed the child Fucker
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:26:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 21 2009 10:26 am
Subject: Re: Bumiputra status for all Chinese borned after independence?


so you are saying all CHINESE in ASEAN are natives of SE
Asia ?>

are you saying that the CHINESE native of Malaysia
have their CHINESE right to have their CHINESE CLAIM over
Malaysia ?
can CHINESE claim Malaysia for the CHINESE people ?

n May 21, 12:00 am, Politikus wrote:

> Is this really possible? :-p

> =======
> Bumiputra status for all born after independence?

> SHAH ALAM, May 20 – Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) leader M.
> Manoharan today called for all those born in Malaysia after
> independence to be accorded Bumiputra status, saying that this would
> truly unite Malaysians and give 1Malaysia some meaning.

> Fresh from being released from Internal Security Act (ISA) detention,
> M. Manoharan may well be courting trouble again with his speech at a
> teatime function today.

> “I want to meet the prime minister to propose that we accord Bumiputra
> status to all Malaysians born here after August 31, 1957 to dismantle
> racial barriers,” he said.

> In an interview with The Malaysian Insider later, he said that such a
> move might give PM Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s 1 Malaysia slogan of unity
> a chance of bearing some fruit, as it would be the first step towards
> recognising all citizens as equal Malaysians.

> Recognising the sensitivities surrounding Bumiputra status, he
> explained that it was not meant to impinge on the constitutional
> rights and privileges of Malays.

> “The constitution enshrines the rights of Malays, not Bumiputras, so
> they can still continue to enjoy their special status. I am not trying
> to take it away from them,” he said.

> The Kota Alam Shah assemblyman added that, along with four other
> Hindraf leaders released recently from ISA detention, he would resume
> its 18-point demands to the government which includes affirmative
> action for ethnic Indians as well as protection for its schools and
> temples.

> In his own capacity as a DAP assemblyman in Selangor’s Pakatan Rakyat
> government, he hopes to pursue some of these issues.

> “I have a masterplan for Selangor. If we solve these three problems –
> Tamil schools, Hindu temples and graveyards or crematoriums – then we
> will have solved 90 per cent of Indian problems,” he said.

> He said the state government had the power to end these Indian issues
> as it was in charge of giving out land titles.

> “We are asking for nothing more than what are government obligations
> to its citizens. We are not asking to be prime minister, deputy prime
> minister or to be astronauts,” he quipped.

From: adrian chin
Date: 21 May 2009 10:35:57 +0800
Local: Thurs, May 21 2009 10:35 am
Subject: Re: Bumiputra status for all born after independence?

How will stating the obvious put him in danger of going behind bars ? It
might just give our country the push it needs to achieve First World
Status faster than any initiative I've seen so far.

Malaysians for once, will probably say I'M MALAYSIAN, when people ask,
"where are you from ?" When people ask me, my standard reply today is, "
err malaysia lah " or " malaysia " Trust me, I'm not saying it with
pride, but to just answer a simple question.

On Wed, 20 May 2009 10:00:17 -0700, Politikus wrote:
> Is this really possible? :-p

> <<< Fast Forward Asia <<<

> =======
> Bumiputra status for all born after independence?

> SHAH ALAM, May 20 – Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) leader M.
> Manoharan today called for all those born in Malaysia after independence
> to be accorded Bumiputra status, saying that this would truly unite
> Malaysians and give 1Malaysia some meaning.

> Fresh from being released from Internal Security Act (ISA) detention, M.
> Manoharan may well be courting trouble again with his speech at a
> teatime function today.

On May 21, 10:26 am, Prophet Mohamed the child Fucker

> so you are saying all CHINESE in ASEAN are natives of SE
> Asia ?>

> are you saying that the CHINESE native of Malaysia
> have their CHINESE right to have their CHINESE CLAIM over
> Malaysia ?
> can CHINESE claim Malaysia for the CHINESE people ?

> n May 21, 12:00 am, Politikus wrote:

> > Is this really possible? :-p

> > <<< Fast Forward Asia <<<

> > =======
> > Bumiputra status for all born after independence?

> > SHAH ALAM, May 20 – Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) leader M.
> > Manoharan today called for all those born in Malaysia after
> > independence to be accorded Bumiputra status, saying that this would
> > truly unite Malaysians and give 1Malaysia some meaning.

> > Fresh from being released from Internal Security Act (ISA) detention,
> > M. Manoharan may well be courting trouble again with his speech at a
> > teatime function today.

> > “I want to meet the prime minister to propose that we accord Bumiputra
> > status to all Malaysians born here after August 31, 1957 to dismantle
> > racial barriers,” he said.

> > In an interview with The Malaysian Insider later, he said that such a
> > move might give PM Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s 1 Malaysia slogan of unity
> > a chance of bearing some fruit, as it would be the first step towards
> > recognising all citizens as equal Malaysians.

> > Recognising the sensitivities surrounding Bumiputra status, he
> > explained that it was not meant to impinge on the constitutional
> > rights and privileges of Malays.

> > “The constitution enshrines the rights of Malays, not Bumiputras, so
> > they can still continue to enjoy their special status. I am not trying
> > to take it away from them,” he said.

> > The Kota Alam Shah assemblyman added that, along with four other
> > Hindraf leaders released recently from ISA detention, he would resume
> > its 18-point demands to the government which includes affirmative
> > action for ethnic Indians as well as protection for its schools and
> > temples.

> > In his own capacity as a DAP assemblyman in Selangor’s Pakatan Rakyat
> > government, he hopes to pursue some of these issues.

> > “I have a masterplan for Selangor. If we solve these three problems –
> > Tamil schools, Hindu temples and graveyards or crematoriums – then we
> > will have solved 90 per cent of Indian problems,” he said.

> > He said the state government had the power to end these Indian issues
> > as it was in charge of giving out land titles.

> > “We are asking for nothing more than what are government obligations
> > to its citizens. We are not asking to be prime minister, deputy prime
> > minister or to be astronauts,” he quipped.- Hide quoted text -

Newsgroups: soc.culture.malaysia
From: "samsuddin"
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:06:51 +1000
Local: Thurs, May 21 2009 11:06 am
Subject: Re:

Is it time for the Malays to go on a killing spree to reassert what the
majority think is their basic right?

Royalty sucking the Malaysians dry

From: "samsuddin"
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:42:55 +1000
Local: Tues, May 19 2009 7:42 am
Subject: Royalty sucking the Malaysians dry.

I am amazed at the phenomenal amount of money spent on them. May be it is
time to become a republic. Royalty has a role to play in this society and if
they prove themselves useful, well and good and if not do like what the
French did a long long time ago.
Allahu Arbar

Najib is the people's PM? My foot!

From: Politikus
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:20:26 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 20 2009 1:20 am
Subject: Re: Najib is the people's PM? My foot!

On May 20, 1:13 am, Politikus wrote:

> Najib still losing ground? ;-p

You do not need to be very brilliant to read that Najib is suffering
from paralysis... ;-p

Najib has got himself into a Catch-22 scenario
Christopher Choong | May 19, 09 4:46pm

In game theory, a hawk-dove game is often used to model distributive
conflicts, in which an impasse cannot be solved by a central authority
due to the existence of multiple equilibria.

The solution, and the speed of this solution, depends on resource
asymmetry and the holding power of the contestants. The more equal the
distribution of power, the longer the impasse becomes and the longer
the contestants have to put up with a sub-optimal outcome.

This game bears stark resemblance to the current political tussle in
Perak. The state itself being the bone of contention further
aggravates the problem, where there is no central authority to alter
the payoffs structure and strategies of the contestants.

Institutions that could have provided relief eg, the judiciary and the
police are seen as partial the higher they go up, thus removing
whatever credibility that is left of these authorities.

So it seems that the only way out of the crisis depends on whether BN
or Pakatan Rakyat has the stronger holding power. Perhaps, this has
always been the way for BN to resolve conflicts. After all, with so
many resources on its side - financial, police, judges, media and
machinery, is there really a need to appeal to principles here?

Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak could comfortably make the rhetoric
of adhering to the due process of law simply because the laws and
institutions have been fashioned over the years to favour his regime.

It is a mistake in game theory to assume that the power to contest can
be framed by a restrictive instrumental rationality of cost-benefit
calculations. This is because the willingness to contest is based on a
host of other factors (besides ‘rational choice') chief amongst which
are ideological, organisational and one's notion of justice.

Such is the mistake Najib cannot afford to make in this hawk-dove
game. It is uncertain to many Malaysians how much Najib and his
compadres have truly grasped the tectonic shifts not only in the
psychological mindset of Malaysians, but also the distribution of
power in Malaysia's political scene since March 8 last year.

The ‘Mahathir's Malaysia' Najib has grown so familiar with, a
conception of a nation-state dominated by the personality of a single
person, is hardly conceivable in today's Malaysia especially with a
growing urban, educated middle-class all wanting a stake in the
determination of what Malaysia ought to be.

The blatant injustices and institutional violations that leaked out
from the fetters of traditional censorship through the advent of
information technology provoked a rising sense of discontent among
ordinary Malaysians.

Bailouts of crony companies which are not genuinely productive and
whose wealth did not trickle-down to the wider public caused the
poorer Malaysians to realise that this growing pie was not equitably

Malaysians are organising themselves around broader and more
ideological goals, a momentum that was triggered since the ‘reformasi'
movement of 1998/99. Where development has always been conceived as
economic growth in the country, we now see a desire to incorporate
other developmental dimensions such as political rights and social

The emergence of these ideologies has exorcised the May 13 ghost which
has been used for 40 years to legitimise the divide-and-rule policies
of the BN hegemony. Such was the sentiment in a recently concluded
‘May 13 to 1Malaysia' forum.

In holding on to this battle in Perak, Najib has better realise that
the distribution of power is not as asymmetrical as it once was in
Mahathir's era and the willingness to contest is motivated not merely
by material cost-benefit calculations (although the three ‘frogs' in
Perak proved otherwise) but also by a strong notion of justice and

One can only hope, albeit not too optimistically, that his willingness
to talk to PR leaders is an indication that he does have his fingers
on the pulse of the nation and conscious of the repercussions to his
party come next general elections if this impasse drags on.

Yet, it is unclear at this point if there are any actual, feasible
solution on the cards even if the talks materialise. A hawk-dove game,
by its very nature, implies that there will be losers in any one
solution. Najib's ‘konchos' in Perak who are hoping to benefit from
controlling state resources will definitely put up resistance against
the possibility of a shrinking pie for their faction.

Moreover, there is much personal disutility on Najib's own part to
concede defeat given the fact that this takeover is perceived to be
his handiwork to usher in his new premiership.

So it seems that Najib has got himself into a Catch-22 scenario. He
has to find a balance between the options of short-term losses by
crossing his own ‘konhcos' and long-term losses in the next general
election by crossing the rakyat.

It will be disastrous for him to underestimate the holding power of
Pakatan in resolving the current impasse.

While he ponders on his next move, with the Mahathir and Pak Lah camps
playing a different tune in the background, the hawk-dove game tells
us that it is the Silver State citizens who will continue to suffer
from the present sub-optimal, disequilibrium outcome.

M'sian Gov't must do soul-searching over IGP's appoitment

From: Politikus
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:29:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 20 2009 1:29 am
Subject: M'sian Gov't must do soul-searching over IGP's appoitment

Will Najib removes an idiot IGP who had proven loyalty to him...? :-p

Gov't must do soul-searching over IGP's appoitment
Frankly Xroy | May 19, 09 4:42pm

I refer to the Malaysiakini report Quit now, lawyers tell IGP, home

I think it is high time the government seriously considered moving out
the Inspector-General of Police as he seems to have an extremely low
standard of reasoning and this is dangerous for a man who commands
such a high position.

Five lawyers were reported to have been arrested for gathering in
front of the Brickfields police station in Kuala Lumpur to render
legal aid to people who were arrested for during a candlelight vigil
in support of Bersih activist Wong Chin Huat.

In the first place, how was Wong Chin Huat's actions illegal? All he
did was to encourage people to wear black in defiance of the
government's actions. And how is that illegal?

Secondly, how is the holding of a candlelight vigil illegal? It is
done in democracies throughout the world when people show their
concern for a lot of things - worship, mourning and including for the
trampling of the democratic rights of their fellow citizens when they
get arrested for merely saying things that amount to saying boo to a

So what is the IGP saying? He has to lend more clarity to what he
means. To answer his question, ‘First we should ask these questions,
are lawyers above the law? and the answer is ‘no'.

They aren't and they should be punished even more if they break the
law and the same principle should apply to the IGP and his fellow
policemen as they are the custodians of the law.

Now, what seems to have been done here is that lawyers were arrested
whilst in the process of performing the very task they are bound to do
- defending the defenceless. So how did they break the law?

Isn't arresting them whilst they are trying to perform this duty an
infringement of the basic rights of the persons arrested? A right to
legal aid and the duty of a lawyer to offer his services?

If anyone has broken the law is was the police at the Perak state
secretariat police building the very next day after the courts had
declared Mohd Nizar Jamaluddin the rightful menteri besar of Perak.

He was blocked from entering the premises b y the police. Is that not
breaking the law and if it was, are the IGP and his personnel immune
from action if they commit an offence?

I was ashamed to read that he, the IGP, said, ‘I will not allow
Malaysia to become another Thailand.' Let me remind him that in
Thailand the democratic rights of the people are protected by the
police, the custodians of the law, and that is really wonderful the
people there have the confidence of the police.

In Thailand the people wore yellow, closed down an airport, the police
guarded them, and almost toppled the government in the process.

Then another group wore red, and stopped the meeting of the Asean
heads of State and they too were guarded by the police till they
turned violent. Even after that, the police action was brief and not

In Malaysia people got arrested for wearing black, they got arrested
for having breakfast at licenced coffee shops and all this in the name
of democracy?

Surely if there is any ‘soul-searching' to be done, it is for the
government to do over this IGP's appointment. I do not think he has
the capacity to really rationally reason out the issues and this
verdict is from the whole trail of actions he has been taking since
the last general elections.

The Home Minister on the other hand , lacks the experience, and is to
young for such a task.

I shall leave it for the government to assess the situation but
something is really wrong when the police decide that arresting people
they do not like for no apparent wrong is a right they have.

Can sultans make decisions for the executive?

From: Politikus
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:34:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 20 2009 1:34 am
Subject: Can sultans make decisions for the executive?

Shame on Najib... :-(

Can sultans make decisions for the executive?
Appum | May 18, 09 4:42pm

I thought that Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak was moving towards the
right direction with some of the immediate actions he advanced after
taking over the premiership.

But of late, from the actions and statements he made with regards to
the Perak stalemate situation, it has set me to change my perception
of him. Here are the observations I made.

1. First, he made the people believe he was the one who masterminded
the Perak coup and was happy and proud about it.

2. Then came the shameful actions of the BN Adun in the forceful
takeover of the Perak assembly on May 7 by using outsiders (probably
plainclothes police personnel) and the throwing out of the official
speaker by force.

If one were to see the video, one will be really be disgusted by such
unruly behaviour. Then one of their independent renegade supporters by
the name of Hee disgracefully brought in a pepper spray (classified as
weapon) into the house in order to use it on her opponents.

To make matters worse, she now denies it left, right and centre. Can
you imagine the PM carrying such a baggage of a character who has no
values and principles?

She has shown to have been telling one lie after another in the open.
I wonder if Najib or Barisan will re appoint her to stand for an
elected position in the next coming re-election?

Come on, the PM has enough baggage at this current time so can he even
carry more bad baggage? Baggage like people facing corruption charges
in courts and who caused this impasse in Perak?

The people of Perak are suffering, the state's economy is suffering,
there is nothing moving in the government. Yet he has allowed this
instability to carry on just because of power and controlling the
state at the expense of the people.

The people's interests are of no concerned and consideration. Is this
a caring government?

3. The came the high court action on Monday which declared that Mohd
Nizar Jamaluddin was and is the rightful menteri besar.

The PM changed his stand suddenly and said it's up to Zambry Abdul
Kadir to decide on what to do. This when we all know that directives
and instructions all come from KL. As the press saw it, ‘he distanced
himself from Zambry'.

4 The final straw that broke my back was when Najib said, ‘The Sultan
has to decide whether there will be a snap election'.

I am no big minister and no big lawyer and yet I can understand this
is a country which operates under a constitutional monarchy system.

Now where does the executive stand? Can the sultans make executive
decisions first for the executive to follows? Pray, tell me.

Running dogs of Malaysia

From: "G*d"
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:59:14 +0800
Local: Wed, May 20 2009 10:59 pm
Subject: Re: Running dogs of Malaysia

This ASIA does not belong to hybrid mutated race ! MAY YOU BURN IN ETERNAL

هذا آسيا لا تنتمي إلى العرق أو تحور مختلطة! عسى أن تحترق في نار اللعن

"samsuddin" wrote in message

> Who do you think they are? Where do you think MCA, MIC and Gerakan stand?
> UMNO requires good running dogs althoualaysia BOLEH. Muslims are not
> supposed to keep dogs but this is an exception to the rule.

War of words between Barisan Nasional and Pakatan continues

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.malaysia
From: Politikus
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 18 2009 11:21 pm
Subject: Who stands for something, and who opposes?

BN is a pale shade of what they used to stand for..? :-p

Who stands for something, and who opposes?

MAY 18 – As the war of words between Barisan Nasional and Pakatan
Rakyat continues, I can’t help but think that Barisan is missing
something fundamental which Pakatan has.

Regardless of which party is actually in power in a plural system, one
side usually stands for something, and the other usually stands for

Today, Barisan Nasional is nothing more than a pathetic opposition

While the correlation is certainly not perfect, the fact is that
parties which stand for something principled and meaningful tend to
outperform those that just stand for the sake of standing.

Before March 8, while the opposition had a nominal platform, it was
still by and large an outlet for a variety of anti-government
sentiments, without any real uniting principles. What changed in 2007
and 2008 is that the opposition finally managed to agree on something,
and stand for it.

In other words, the difference between today and the years past is the
difference between Pakatan Rakyat and Barisan Alternatif.

One defines itself based on the belief that all Malaysians are created
equal, and that the unlucky should not be condemned to a life of
misery. The other defined itself as, well, the alternative to whatever
Barisan stood for. Is it any wonder that Barisan Alternatif eventually
fell apart, while Pakatan is slowly solidifying?

You see this in other countries too. In the United States, the
Democrats lost in 2004 because the key plank of their platform was not
being the party of George W. Bush. They won in 2008 because Barack
Obama had a principle, however vague, which he stood for; the
Republicans lost because they became the party of opposing the

India recently wrapped up its own general elections, in which Manmohan
Singh became only the second Prime Minister ever to democratically win
a second full term, because his Congress Party knew what it stood for,
while the opposition only knew it stood for whatever Congress didn’t.

Parties which become more wrapped up in their own self-importance tend
to believe that simply having a platform for the sake of having one is
enough to win – and this is often their undoing.

That is exactly what has happened to Barisan. While Barisan has always
been a marriage of convenience (like most political coalitions), if
you look at the statements of its leaders from years past, they at
least seemed to know what they stood for. Barisan stood for harmony,
peace, and prosperity, and their leaders could convincingly say this.

Today, if any Barisan leader said that, they would be dismissed as yet
another joker, because Barisan blatantly stands only for whatever
Pakatan isn’t.

The evidence is there, after all. Both coalitions claim to be “people-
centred,” but while one implements popular policies (like granting
well overdue land titles to deserving owners), the other refuses to
submit to democratic elections and implements a power-grab for the
sake of enhancing its own power.

Barisan is no longer united by a true desire to see harmony, peace and
prosperity in this country – it is united by the common purpose of not
being Pakatan, and enhancing its own interests.

Pakatan has its own issues, too. This is in large part a holdover from
their former days of being the opposition party.

When you are a coalition of people brought together only by
disaffection for the government, you get both the true believers and
the thieves. Some people want to topple the government because they
want a better government. Others want to topple the government because
they believe they should be the ones running a corrupt government.
Pakatan had no choice but to accept the latter type because they were
so short on people willing to work with them.

But let’s look at the longer trends. Pakatan, like it or not, has a
clear intention of what it wants to do. Even though its component
parties disagree on many important issues, they all want to reduce the
vast inequality of economic opportunity in our country, bolster basic
freedoms and institutions, and truly do away with the identification
of race and socio-economic status.

We do not seem to appreciate enough the surprising reality that amidst
the chaos of Malaysian politics, there is a major coalition which
actually has unanimous agreement on racial issues! Even Barisan
Nasional cannot say that.

Really, all Barisan Nasional can say for itself is that what’s best
for Barisan is what’s best for Malaysia. The problem with that is that
it is a complete and blatant lie – and the situation in Perak has been
a brilliant illuminator of this. Pakatan could not have asked for a
better gift from Barisan.

Even people I know who were for Barisan less than a year ago cannot
imagine voting for or supporting it now. In the hearts and minds of
Malaysians, Pakatan is now the party with authority – Barisan is the
wildly flailing, failing opposition party.

If Barisan were to have any hope of undoing the catastrophe that it
has brought upon itself, it must find a better principle to stand for
than its own self-aggrandisation.

Najib stopped the Chinese in May 1969

Re: Najib stopped the Chinese in May 1969 . remember the Racial Killings, without Bloodshed , Malaysia would now be Chinese territory

Today, 19 May, 2009, 3 hours ago | voivodv...@gmail.com (the Fucking Boudha)

you have no proof that Najib was fucking his mother in 1969.
You are a Chinese liar .
one thing is sure, Najib stopped the Chinese in Malaysia from
taking Power .
Chinese had wanted to take over Malaysia in 1969 May.
without Bloodshed , there would be no Malaysia now .

BN leans towards fresh polls in Perak

From: Politikus
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 18 2009 11:26 pm
Subject: Suicide: BN leans towards fresh polls in Perak

Will BN dare to take a gamble when they know they will surely lose? ;-

BN leans towards fresh polls in Perak

KUALA LUMPUR, May 18 — The consensus that emerged today among Barisan
Nasional (BN) leaders is that even if the court of appeal rules in its
favour this Thursday, it will still ask the Sultan of Perak to
dissolve the state assembly to pave the way for fresh polls.

The Malaysian Insider understands that the Perak constitutional crisis
was a major item on the agenda at today’s supreme council meeting of
the ruling coalition.

The rationale for such a move is that the ruling coalition stands to
lose more credibility and that perception that it is the villain in
the Perak power grab would only grow.

A number of BN leaders told The Malaysian Insider that the Pakatan
Rakyat (PR) had been effective in painting BN as the usurpers of

However, a time frame for elections has not been decided.

The BN supreme council is likely to meet again after Thursday’s court

Perak’s constitutional crisis is now before the court of appeal as
Datuk Seri Dr Zambry Abd Kadir has filed an appeal against the High
Court ruling that Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin is the rightful mentri

With no clear end to the deadlock in sight, both BN and PR have
appeared amenable to cooperating to find a solution to the impasse.

But PR, led by opposition leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, is
insisting that a fresh election must be part of the equation, a
condition that BN has been reluctant to agree to.

At a press conference today, Datuk Seri Najib Razak had indicated that
any talks with PR over the Perak crisis would only happen after
Thursday’s court decision.

Even if the court of appeal decides in favour of Zambry, the ruling
coalition is still stuck with the dilemma of having to rely on the
backing of three defectors to remain in power.

Currently, both BN and PR have an equal number of seats in the state
assembly, with the three BN-friendly independents tilting in its

But two of the three assemblymen still face corruption charges, while
the third, the former DAP lawmaker Hee Yit Foong, has been vilified to
such an extent that she does not risk showing up at her own

The reason for BN’s softening position is also likely due to a growing
feeling among some of its leaders that it may want to cut its losses
or risk having the anti-BN feeling grow further.

Former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad recently suggested that
it was a foregone conclusion that BN would lose fresh polls.

Some BN lawmakers in Perak are also said to be keen on convening an
emergency sitting of the state assembly to finally gauge once and for
all the support it needs to legitimately run the state government.

But there is a growing consensus that such an administration will
continue to be beset with controversy and legal challenges from PR.

BN not standing for the seat in Penang

From: "samsuddin"
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:29:12 +1000
Local: Tues, May 19 2009 7:29 am
Subject: BN not standing for the seat in Penang

Are they afraid of losing their deposite? The Public is waiting for a chance
to show BN what a despicable party it is.

Impossible for Malaysia to contain Swine Flu

From: "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad"
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:27:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Impossible for Malaysia to contain Swine Flu

With the limited success in quarantining all passengers or people in
contact with swine flu confirmed cases, coupled with the delay in
testing and confirming these swine flu cases, it is too late to
contain this swine flu.

Please note that many swine flu cannot be detected with these tests
and many now appear like normal flu except that they are not resistant
to Tamilflu unlike the normal flu in US. Malaysian normal flu may

Many journalists and even senior university lecturer are spreading
false information that this swine flu is just like normal flu. It is
more than 4 times more dangerous than normal flu and kills even
apparently healthy individuals in half of the cases.

I fear that this ignorance will spread to our doctors who will dismiss
this as a normal flu as what had happened to the first confirmed case.
It was only after the 2nd confirmed Swine flu case was the quarantine
for the rest of the passengers and crew were initiated. It is too late
for that.

China is the only nation that is serious in quarantine procedures but
even that may not be enough.

The deaths may be only 68, but this is only after 1 month. The deaths
of 36,000 in USA for normal flu is for the whole year.

These flu may not cause death directly. Flu normally does not kill. It
is the secondary infection that will kill in most cases.


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updated 10:28 a.m. ET May 17, 2009

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - Budget airline AirAsia said Sunday it has
quarantined five crew members from a domestic flight that carried
Malaysia's second confirmed swine flu victim.

The crew of flight AK5358, which flew from Kuala Lumpur to the
northern city of Penang on Wednesday, was taken off duty Saturday,
AirAsia spokesman Hamdan Mohamad said.

He said this was done on the orders of the Health Ministry as a
precautionary measure.
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The flight was taken by Malaysia's second confirmed swine flu case, a
21-year-old female student who had arrived in Kuala Lumpur on a
Malaysian Airlines flight earlier Wednesday from Newark in the United
States. She was hospitalized after reaching Penang.

Malaysia's first confirmed victim is a 21-year-old friend of the
woman, who also was on the Malaysian Airlines flight. He has been
hospitalized in Kuala Lumpur.

The Star quoted Health Ministry Deputy Director-General Ramlee Rahmat
as saying that both were in stable condition.

He said all 101 passengers on the AirAsia flight would be put under
home quarantine.

Of the 119 passengers on the Malaysian Airlines flight, 95 have been
located and put under home quarantine along with 15 crew members,
Ramlee was quoted as saying. The 95 ― 80 Malaysians and 15 foreigners
― all are healthy, he said. The ministry is still trying to locate one
remaining Malaysian and 23 foreigners, he said.

The World Health Organization has confirmed at least 8,480 human cases
of swine flu in nearly 40 countries, mostly in the U.S. and Mexico,
including 72 deaths.

Sudan more developed than Malaysia

Newsgroups: soc.culture.malaysia
From: "samsuddin"
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:42:20 +1000
Local: Sat, May 16 2009 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: Sudan more developed than Malaysia

What you are doing is just shouting around and nothing will happen. Stand
for election and voice yourself in parliament if you manage to win a seat in
Parliament. You are currently like the village idiot mumbling around as you
wander about the village. You are just an enche tiga suku

On May 16, 12:08 pm, "samsuddin" wrote:

> You should take up politics Haji Othman and see what you can do if you get

So you think what I'm doing is not politics?
You have such narrow minded view of politics. Do some more research
rather than being an idiot.

> any support. You are suppoed to be a well educated professional who
> benefited from the government's largess provided you and it is time you go

I was in the first group of a quota of 24 Sabahans, in 1976, when
there are thousands from Malaya with much less qualifications, and you
call that "benefiting" from the federal government? Should we thank
somebody just because he only steals 90% of the time???
Just because he does not steal 10% of the time, should we thank him
and allow him to continue stealing 100%?

You seem to imply that you don't want to help any qualified Sabahan
and want to garner 100% of their resources. In that case, you are not
asking me to go into politics, that will be war, like what is
happening to the 100% Muslim Darfur.

> forward and contribute towards your so called deprived society. Do not be
> a
> whimpering idiot.

So you consider someone who demands justice as a whimpering idiot?
So people like you who steal other people's resources, call yourself
a clever person.
Indeed you are clever, but I don't want to be one of them.

There is more to life than money and wealth. Isn't life for the
pursuit of happiness?
Would you be happy when only you are well off whereas your relatives
are all so poor and living in abject poverty, the worst in the whole
world? In the end, you'll be unhappy when there is no more peace and
prosperity for all, despite all your wealth.

I think the corrupt Sudan leaders is realising this. Hopefully, you
should realise this as well before it is too late.

> "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad" wrote in
> messagenews:a82540c9-b52a-4cd5-98f1-48e9099c8c81@g3g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

> >I am indeed surprised but this is the place of Darfun, refuted to be
> > suffering from Genocide, poverty and starvation and yet live lives
> > much better than many Sabahans.

> >http://saharanvibe.blogspot.com/2007/05/is-sudan-next-power-house-in-...

> > Sabahans must realise that we are now at the shithole of society and
> > facts and figures don't lie.

Malaysian appeal court judge has broken the LAW

From: "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad"
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 13 2009 10:30 pm
Subject: Malaysian appleal court judge has broken the LAW

How could Appeal court judge be breaking the law and the Attorney
General be so ignorant of the LAW??

Is it possible to sue both of them?

It’s contempt of court, says Ngeh

IPOH: Pakatan Rakyat has accused Datuk Seri Dr Zambry Abd Kadir of acting in contempt of court by resuming the duties of the Perak Mentri Besar.

State DAP chief Datuk Ngeh Koo Ham said that until the Court of Appeal made its decision, neither Dr Zambry nor Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin could legally carry out any mentri besar duty.

The former senior executive council member added that by resuming his duties Tuesday, Dr Zambry had caused the nation to think that he had already won his appeal against Monday’s High Court ruling.

The Court of Appeal had on Tuesday granted Dr Zambry a stay of execution pending his appeal on the High Court’s ruling that Nizar was the rightful mentri besar “at all material times.”

Since then, Dr Zambry and his team of exco members had entered their offices at the State Secretariat, met for an exco meeting and held a press conference.

“This cannot be done because the stay of execution granted to Dr Zambry does not reverse the High Court ruling.

“The stay only asks Nizar not to exercise his right in order to give Dr Zambry a chance to let his case be heard at a higher court.

“Hence as it stands now, Nizar is the legal mentri besar and Dr Zambry is the illegal one but neither can exercise their mentri besar duties,” said Ngeh told The Star in a phone interview.

Ngeh also wondered at the Court of Appeal’s decision to grant the stay, saying that Section 54 of the Special Relief Act disallowed any injunction to be granted when it interfered with the public duties of a government.

Section 54(d) states: “An injunction cannot be granted to interfere with the public duties of any department of any Government in Malaysia, or with the sovereign acts of a foreign Government.”

“The stay is tantamount to a form of injunction,” argued Ngeh.

Ngeh said that since Dr Zambry could not carry out mentri besar duties, he did not have the right to lift the suspension of State Secretary Datuk Dr Abdul Rahman Hashim and State Legal Adviser Datuk Ahmad Kamal Md Shahid.

He also refuted Chief Secretary to the Government Tan Sri Mohd Sidek hassan’s statement that the state government could not suspend the duo.

“The State Secretary and the State Legal Adviser are Federal Officers appointed by the Public Service Commission and the Judicial and Legal Service Commission respectively.

“However, when they are seconded to and employed by the state government, the state government has the authority over them as their employer.

“Therefore, they can be suspended from their duties pending formal complaints lodged against them with both the commissions,” he said.

Mahathir, dont open your mouth

From: "Nighthawk"
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:25:53 +0800
Local: Fri, May 15 2009 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: Mahathir, dont open your mouth

If people like u keep bothering to respond, the media will keep seeking him out to get his thots published. Just ignore him and the media and they will both just go away and you will be able to sleep fitfully at night.

Tun's time has come and gone. Ignore him. He should have done what he was supposed to do for over 22 years ago.

For good or for worse, now is Najib's time.

"hcfy" wrote in message

> and we perakians won't call you dumb ! Don't forget you are the father of
> corruption and we Perakians demand the current UMNO led state government
> resign and let the people decide.

> Not only the rakyat in Perak love election, all malaysians love elections.
> You know why that is where the arrogance UMNO become humble and promises a
> lot of goodies but we rakyat are not blind anymore !

Wrong calculation for flu fatality in Malaysia

From: "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad"
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:07:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 16 2009 9:07 am
Subject: Wrong calculation for flu fatality in Malaysia

It is sad to see that a medical doctor can be completely wrong and therefore mislead the public on the danger of this current Swine Flu.

The 1% figure is not fatality rate but Case Fatality Rate which is completely different.

The fatality rate, that is the chance of you dying once you catch this disease is many times this figure, i.e. around 4%. The inaccuracy in exaggerated because it takes a long time to die from this flu.

The paper published in the Science Journal by Imperial College and WHO, despite not completely reliable because lots of data are still missing, indicate clearly that it is not normal flu fatality rate but more of the Asian Flu Pandemic in 1957.

The insufficient data is the discrepencies of the fatality rates in Europe(Zero), versus low in US and high in Mexico, especially in the early stages.

This can be explained by the usage of Tamilflu. In Europe it is deemed to be high. In UK, it was even used as preventive measures.

In USA, Tamilflu is most probably used for clear symptoms but not for those with other so called chronic diseases that now include gout, asthma and diabetic. And even pregnancy. Based on the limited Newspaper reports of these 3 deaths in US, there are indications that they were not prescribed with Tamilflu. One teacher is already dying but he is alleged to be suffering from gout, i.e. excessive Uric Acid
and was not treated with Tamilflu until it is too late, i.e. more than 48 hours after the onset of symptoms.

Tamilfu is only effective if taken less than 48 hours after symptoms develop and making it worse, normal H1N1 in USA is already immune to Tamilflu. So after taking Tamilflu, if you still stick, it is an indicator that you are suffering from normal flu that has a very low fatality rate because it only kills the very young(less than 1 year old) and the very old ( older than 60).

This current H1N1 kills mostly those younger than 60 and it can be passed to pigs, but unfortunately these pigs won't die of this Swine Flu.

Saturday May 16, 2009
No reason to panic over A (H1N1)

With more than 7,000 people afflicted with the A (H1N1) virus and Malaysia recording its first confirmed case, we have to act to keep it from spreading. But there’s little reason to fear as the virus can be quelled and sent into the footnotes of his

IT’S official. A (H1N1) has affected one of our own, a 21-year-old who returned from the US on Wednesday morning. We are now part of the family of more than 30 nations that have reported cases of this strain of flu.

Let’s keep things in perspective. According to the World Health Organisation (WHO), a quarter to half a million people die annually from influenza, so A (H1N1) is by no means the only flu virus that can kill.

The reason such new strains are more virulent is that natural human immunity has not been developed against them.

The latest WHO statistics show that the number of confirmed cases of A (H1N1) stands at 7,000 to 8,000 people in more than 30 countries, with 60 to 70 fatalities.

That’s a fatality rate of less than 1%, suggesting that the virus may not be as virulent as initially thought.

Lessons learnt from the SARS epidemic and the avian flu scare several years ago have primed governments to respond to similar outbreaks rapidly.

In Malaysia, the authorities are now trying to contact all the passengers and crew on the same flight as the 21-year-old to ascertain whether they have been affected so that they can take the necessary steps to treat those who need it and prevent transmission to other people.

Entry and exit points in the country are being monitored. Designated
hospitals are primed to treat patients suspected of having contracted
the flu.

Quarantine procedures are in place. We have anti-virals to treat those confirmed to have A (H1N1).

We are prepared.

In the meantime, we have to take care of our own. For those who are planning overseas travel, try not to go to places that are affected by the virus.

If you really need to travel, it’s time to get to know your GP a bit better. Seek his/her advice before you travel.

Be wary of flu-like symptoms such as fever, lethargy, lack of appetite, body aches and coughing.

Some people may have runny nose, sore throat, nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea.

If such symptoms manifest, see your doctor immediately, especially if you fall in the high-risk group – younger children, the elderly, those who have chronic diseases and those who are immuno-compromised.

If you do have such symptoms, try and keep away from others and seek medical attention immediately.
Do practise better hygiene standards. Wash your hands regularly, especially after using the toilet, before every meal and after a trip outside.

And try not to sneeze into someone’s face. Sneeze into a piece of tissue instead and discard that tissue properly. If you’re coughing and sneezing frequently, and need to go out in public, use a face mask to cover your nose and mouth.

Try and keep up with the news for regular updates from the Health Ministry.

For the passengers who travelled on Malaysian Airlines flight MH091 from Newark in the Uni-ted States to Kuala Lumpur on May 13, please contact the Health Ministry at 03-8881 0200/0300.

It’s not only for your own protection, but for the protection of your family and friends.

The Government is doing its part in trying to contain the spread of A (H1N1).

We need to do our part too.

We can take a few a simple steps to protect ourselves, our friends and our loved ones. Some experts are predicting a second, deadlier wave of A (H1N1).

Be that as it may, if we take the necessary steps to reduce our risk exposure, nature will take its course, and A (H1N1) will become a footnote in history, one amongst many.

We have to be careful: A (H1N1) may not be spreading like wildfire yet, but the fear of the A (H1N1) virus definitely is.

> Paul Yeo graduated as a medical doctor and is health editor of Fit4Life, StarMag.

Hubby had sex with wife using cucumbers and brinjals

From: b...@b.com (Polar Bear)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:14:19 GMT
Local: Fri, May 15 2009 8:14 am
Subject: Re: Malaysian woman fucked by cucumber

vegetable is healthy, meat is not.

On Thu, 14 May 2009 20:15:18 +0800, "AleXX"

>She was fucked by cucumbers six time in seven years. She only "realize" it

Thu, May 14, 2009
The Star/Asia News Network

A MAN who misused cucumbers and brinjals while having sex with his wife is in trouble with the law.

The woman claimed that he had forced a cucumber or a brinjal into her private part at least seven times in the past six years ago, police sources told Harian Metro.

Apparently, the man, who is in his 40s, had erectile problems after an accident.

It is learnt that the man began abusing his wife, who is in her 30s, with the vegetables after he got the idea from watching pornographic videos.

"The victim suffered physical and mental anguish because of that. She had pleaded with her husband to stop his improper act," a source said, adding that she was concerned about her health, besides the discomfort and pain.

The woman, who lives in Kajang, Kuala Lumpur, made a police report on Friday. --The Star/Asia News Network

GOOD TIME TO ASK PAKLAH - how deep is your judiciary reform

Newsgroups: soc.culture.malaysia
From: b...@b.com (Polar Bear)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:53:13 GMT
Local: Wed, May 13 2009 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: GOOD TIME TO ASK PAKLAH,how deep is your judiciary reform

he is history, will be forever remembered as someone given the mandate but blew
it, by trying to be popular for not making any decision.

On Wed, 13 May 2009 12:17:58 +0800, "please" wrote:

>Zambry answer, 1court,1judge,1judgement, I get what i want, Bn plenty of
>money to pay for any want

Nizar remains the man of the hour

From: nur
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:55:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 14 2009 3:55 am
Subject: Nizar remains the man of the hour

Nizar remains the man of the hour
By Debra Chong

PETALING JAYA, May 14 – Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin is very much the man of the moment, judging from the rousing reception he got at a public forum here last night in remembrance of the tragic race riots that became a bloodbath 40 years ago.

While his position as the lawful mentri besar (MB) of Perak is locked in a bitter wrangle in the Court of Appeal, there is no doubt as to his popularity with the public.

The cheers, catcalls, whistles and applause sounded far louder and longer when he walked up to the podium than for Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim earlier when the Opposition Leader was opening the event.

Thousands turned up to hear Nizar speak at the city council civic centre, squeezing their rear ends onto narrow chairs in the packed hall, which normally seats about 1,000 people. Those who arrived late had to suffer the ignominy of sitting on the scruffy concrete floor or stand squished to the walls. They did not appear to mind at all; not even the ones dressed to the nines in formal jackets and bling.

Nizar did not disappoint.

The third last speaker for the evening, he immediately launched into a scathing attack on the Barisan Nasional (BN) government, singling out umno for the most blistering criticism.

The newly-elected MP for Bukit Gantang accused the dominant Malay party of creating a bogeyman out of the May 13 1969 incident.

“Umno is still using the May 13 incident as a tool to scare Malaysians,” he thundered.

Nizar claimed that the residual fear from the incident was based on fiction, created by the ruling parties to continue the colonial tactic of divide-and-conquer to exert control over the populace.

“Umno tells people: ‘Our closest enemies are the Chinese’,” he said, to demonstrate what he claimed was the party’s tactics in inciting hatred among the different races.

He alleged the other race-based components of the BN coalition adopted similar measures.

He acknowledged that even he had been duped by the colonialist scare tactics in the past “but no more”.

“The 13th May incident was sparked deliberately by Umno,” he said, pointing out that there was no such racial disturbances in PAS- dominated areas.

Fast-forwarding it to the present day, Nizar emphasised that the Islamist party’s administration is based on universal values such as justice for all and trust.

He further highlighted how peaceful Perak was during its brief 10- month tenure in governing the state, compared to the BN state administration in Terengganu, claiming there existed a deep-seated quarrel inside the party that continued to the present day as the BN politicians squabble over trivial pursuits.

Nizar called on the audience to shake off the metaphorical yoke keeping their heads constantly bowed.

“Are we going to let this continue?” he questioned.

“No!” the crowd thundered in reply.

Smiling broadly, he echoed Anwar’s calls for statewide elections in Perak to solve the current crisis.

This, he said, would bring about a promising new political landscape in Malaysia.

Why Mahathir hates Badawi

Why Mahathir hates Badawi
Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 7:38:54 PM | noreply@blogger.com (Adely)
the cancelling of his Crooked Bridge.

the selling off of MV Agusta. The reason given for selling off MV Agusta is that if they don’t sell it then the government would have to pump in another RM300 million to keep it afloat, on top of the RM300 million they already paid to buy the company. But for Mahathir, RM600 million is considered still cheap and a good buy for what they were getting -- a motorcycle company that makes good motorcycles and has the technology to make small motorcars. He feels someone did a scam and made big bucks by selling MV Agusta. he suspects that that person is Khairy Jamaluddin.

the Oil-for-Food scandal. This is another thing that Tun Dr Mahathir feels is an issue that should not be allowed to be swept under the carpet. The Oil-for-Food scandal has already been reported by the UN Committee and US Congress and the report has been published so you really do not need any fresh investigation. The name of ‘Abdullah Badawi’ is mentioned in those two reports as the beneficiary of the Iraq oil quota and there is even bribery involved.