My dear The Cynic
1. why must you all hate the pig?
You don't have to hate pig, Al Quran and Bible said don't eat it.
Answer: The fact that consumption of pork is prohibited in Islam is
well known. The following points explain various aspects of this
1. Pork-prohibited in Qur’an
The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4
different places. Its prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115.
Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine,
and that on which hath been invoked a name other than that of Allah.
[Al-Qur’an 5:3] The above verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient to
satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.
2. Pork prohibited in the Bible
The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures.
The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus
and the swine, as he divideth the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he
cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not
eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you.
Leviticus chapter 11 verse 7 and 8:
Pork is also prohibited in the book of Deuteronomy
And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud,
it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch
their dead carcass. Deuteronomy chapter 14 verse 8:
A similar prohibition is repeated in the book of Isaiah chapter 65
3. Consumption of pork causes several diseases
The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced
through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less
than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various
Helminthes, like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most
dangerous is Taenia Solium, which in a layman’s terminology is called
tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e.
eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of
the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it
enters the heart it can cause heart attack and if it enters the eye it
can cause blindness. If it enters the liver it can cause liver damage.
It can damage almost all the organs of the body.
Another dangerous helminthes is Taenia Tichurasis. A common
misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die.
In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of
twenty-four people suffering from
Taenia tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This
indicates that the ovas present in the pork do not die under normal
4. Pork has fat building material
Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of
fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension
and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans
suffer from hypertension.
5. Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth
The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives
on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that
God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and
the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared
Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are
bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic
conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you
try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy
their own as well as their neighbour’s excreta.
6. Pig is the most shameless animal
The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is
the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. It
feels no jealousy. And among people who consume pork, the practice of
wife swapping and other forms of promiscuous behaviour is common.
2. Regarding Qurban or Sacriffice of animal
An animal sacrifice in Arabic is called ḏabiḥa (ذَبِيْحَة) or Qurban
(قُرْبَان) . The term may have roots from the Jewish term Korban'; in
some places such as in India/Pakistan, qurbani is always used for
Islamic animal sacrifice. In the Islamic context, an animal sacrifice
referred to as ḏabiḥa (ذَبِيْحَة) meaning "sacrifice as a ritual" is
offered only in Eid ul-Adha. ..."Therefor to the Lord turn in Prayer
and Sacrifice. " (al-kawthar)-Al Quran, 108.2 Qurbani is an Islamic
prescription for the affluent to share their good fortune with the
needy in the community. On the occasion of Eid ul Adhaa, affluent
Muslims all over the world perform the Sunnah of Prophet Ibrahim
(Abraham) by sacrificing a goat or sheep. The meat is then divided
into three equal parts. One part is retained by the person who
performs the Qurbani. The second is given to his relatives. The third
part is distributed to the poor. The Muslims say that this has nothing
to do with blood and gore (Qur'an 22:37: "It is not their meat nor
their blood, that reaches God. It is your piety that reaches Him...").
The sacrifice is done to help the poor and in remembrance of Prophet
Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son Ishmael at God's command.
The sacrificial animal may be a lamb, a sheep, a goat, a camel or a
cow. The animal must be healthy and conscious.
3. Reason for Stoning of Devil during Hajj
The ritual re-enacts Abraham's pilgrimage to Mekkah as explained by
the Muslim historian al-Azraqi:
When he [Abraham] left Mina and was brought down to (the defile
called) al-Aqaba, the Devil appeared to him at Stone-Heap of the
Defile. Gabriel said to him: “Pelt him!” so Abraham threw seven stones
at him so that he disappeared from him. Then he appeared to him at the
Middle Stone-Heap. Gabriel said to him: “Pelt him!” so he pelted him
with seven stones so that he disappeared from him. Then he appeared to
him at the Little Stone-Heap. Gabriel said to him: “Pelt him!” so he
pelted him with seven stones like the little stones for throwing with
a sling. So the Devil withdrew from him.
All three jamarat represent the devil: the first and largest
represents his temptation of Abraham against sacrificing Ishmael, the
second represents the temptation of Abraham's wife Hagar to induce her
to stop him, and the third represents his temptation of Ishmael to
avoid being sacrificed. He was rebuked each time, and the throwing of
the stones symbolizes those rebukes.
The stoning of the jamarat also represents the repudiation of man's
self (literally the "internal despot", al-Nafs al-Amarah) and the act
of casting aside one's low desires and wishes. As one Islamic
theologian puts it,
If one is able to crush the al‑Nafs al‑Amarah during the stoning of
the Jamarah al‑'Uqbah [the jamrah of Aqaba], then one has taken the
next step in attaining closeness to Allah, and since between the
servant and Allah there is no more than the distance of one step, if
one has been able to take this step and make it past one's own low
desires and wishes, then that which follows is the level of closeness
During those two or three days after the Eid that one is in Mina, one
must stone the three Jamarat, meaning that one must trample upon his
internal despot (al-Nafs al-Amarah), the external despot of the
Shaitan from the Jinn (Iblis and those like him), and the Shaitan from
among the Humans (the enemies of religion and of humanity).
The stoning of the three Jamarat is in essence, the trampling upon the
despots and waging war against all of them. When one focuses on them
and the hatred for them, then one automatically focuses with complete
attention upon one's self – and rightfully so – while stoning the
Jamarat, one must focus entirely upon one's self. M
I hope the explainations help you to understand Islam because Islam
mean " obedient to the Allah"
On 13 Jan, 21:18, The Cynic
> On Jan 13, 12:38 pm, nur
> > Everything in Christianity are confusing
> Agreed. I find everything in Islam also confusing. For instance, in
> one of your posts, you stated Allah created everything. I was
> confused because if he had everything why must you all hate the pig?
> But you have run away from this question by not answering. Poor me, I
> am so confused.
> Also another thing I am confused is that you claim Allah is so
> compassionate. OK but why does he require blood sacrifice of animals
> by the thousands in one day? After if all animals are created by him,
> then they are also his children, aren't they?
> Also I am so confused by all of you throwing stones at a devil. Do
> you think any devil will sit at the same spot for hundreds of years
> and wait for stones to hit him? Yes I am so confused. Please clear my
> confusion. Thank youarah, nur, janet and snake oil merchant.
> > Millions of American and European are leaving Christianity and in
> > Malaysia they fighting for the word " Allah" which mean Tuhan yang Esa
> > not Jesus, god the son or god the father.
> Oooh.. this is so confusing. Millions of Muslims are converting to
> Christianity, according tohttp://www.scribd.com/doc/17117083/Millions-of-Muslims-Converting-to-...
> So who is a telling a lie?
> > Oh Allah, the Almighty God the Creator show us the truth and save us
> > from the hell fire.
> Ahh.... this hell fire so often referred to by Christians and Muslims,
> where is it? If you can show me, perhaps I can get a thermal engineer
> to convert the heat into electricity and save earth from global
> warming? The moron Crankie Lee ran away after I posed this question
> to him. Are you like him?
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:07:30 -0800 (PST)
ALLAH is not invented by goat fucker Mohammed. He read Arabic Bible
and taken out Allah from it as his discovery. It is same as you use
planes, electric lights those are all invented by Christians.
Truth will save you. Holy Bible is the Truth and not Koran.
Please don't forget 600 years differance if you still believe
Mohammed, the goat fucker,
is right. He was wrong as he wanted to fuck more women and do more
Muslim carrying bombs in a plane to kill innocent people for Islam.
Have you seen any Christian doing it for religion??
There are more Muslims who are converting to Christian religion
because of our God teaches love and peace and not killings. It
matter whateven your religion is, every human has the right to live.